Corby explores the evolving landscape of food culture and social justice. The conversation kicks off with a nostalgic nod to Ben & Jerry’s, highlighting the tension between the brand’s activist roots and its corporate ownership under Unilever. Kummer reflects on the challenges faced by socially-minded companies after being acquired, questioning whether they can maintain their ideals in the face of corporate pressures.

There’s also a paradox of rising food insecurity in America, juxtaposed with the increasing popularity of budget-friendly products like Hamburger Helper. He critiques the Trump administration’s decision to shut down the USDA’s food insecurity survey, suggesting that eliminating data is a cynical way to ignore pressing issues. The discussion also touches on the cultural phenomenon of sushi becoming a mainstream convenience food, appealing to all age groups and even making its way into gas stations.

Amidst these serious topics, the conversation takes a lighter turn with anecdotes about personal food experiences, including humorous childhood memories involving salami sandwiches.